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Coffee Talk: Who Will You Be In A Crisis? - Shared screen with speaker view
Jim CastroLang
11:31
Good morning everyone!
Mark
12:55
Hello!
Tracy Simmons
16:32
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Tracy Simmons
30:32
Go ahead and start typing your questions if you have any!
Deb Conklin
34:40
Debbie, I posted 2 livestream reflections last week on your question. Feel free to share them from The Oak Tree page..
Tracy Simmons
34:58
Thanks Deb!
Scott KP
36:51
Heather mentions fear, anger... Jim just discusses staying with our vulnerabilities... My sense is — if I am angry about deceptive leadership and misinformation, this season is the time to acknowledge (with Isaiah) that I live among people of “unclean lips”—and so is there a faithful way to express frustration and disappointment with our leaders? can that be hopeful?
Mark
38:17
Scott: Good points about frustration and hope!
Scott KP
39:59
Folks may have been irritated with Jesus overturning the money-changers’ tables in the temple! is that okay?
Jeremy Street
40:56
None of this means anything unless you can be heard . Make sure everyone has their mic up high. we can always turn the volume down from our end. I watch Jim moving his lips but I can barely hear him. Also "understanding feelings" is much less helpful for people than feeling one's feelings with a listener that can feel along with.
Shannon
41:22
Yes! I agree. This is a great opportunity.
Scott KP
42:01
what evidence is there that “most” people are coming out of their corners?
Jeremy Street
42:05
oops I meant "can't be heard"
Sarah Walsh
48:27
Would any of the panelists have suggestions on self-care ideas? As a worker in behavioral health, it's important for me to take care of myself so that I can care for others. Would love any ideas you can share.
Scott KP
48:44
I think it might be important to ask how much we have lived Vicariously through our routine relationships—worship, classroom, concert—and now we are seeing how difficult it is to be with ourselves. Blaise pascal: much of humanity’s problems stem from the inability to sit in a room be myself!
Scott KP
49:08
by myself
Sarah Walsh
51:16
Excellent reflection Scott!
Tracy Simmons
51:42
Great question Sarah, and Scott, I’ll get them to the panelists in just a sec
Deb Conklin
54:49
Yes scott
Scott KP
56:45
Jim just made a good point about American individualism; my comment’s focus is on a failure of self-differentiation, which will give way to more authentic community!
Tracy Simmons
58:14
a big part of self care to me is finding time exercise, and eating right
Jim CastroLang
58:44
Wait Wait Don't Tell Me helps
Tracy Simmons
58:57
I’m going to have Zoombomb nightmares
Jim CastroLang
59:16
So sorry Tracy
Debbie Selzer
59:36
Agree! Eating quality healthy meals instead of snacking on Red Vines all day! 😏
Sarah Walsh
01:00:53
My gym is starting a nutrition challenge I've been thinking of jumping in on just to treat myself better in a way I often ignore.
Tracy Simmons
01:01:04
I love that
Scott KP
01:02:14
right on Todd! introverts unite!
Scott KP
01:04:15
if it is confirmed, I’m worried!
Riff Mattre
01:05:13
Hi Everyone, FāVS Board Member, Riff, here— ‘Not choosing fear’ seems to be THE common charge during this enormous shared experience. IS it healthy in the long run to DENY fear? While I agree with everyone, ‘it’s ok not to be ok’ (whether in crisis or not), how should we handle this most universally-common emotion? Is there a healing approach to the experience of fear that can help us both individually and together?
Tracy Simmons
01:05:53
Great question Riff
Sarah Walsh
01:06:25
In reply to Jim, I grew up a southern Baptist and my ideas on God has flexed over time. I am in a questioning time of my life spiritually. I am no
Sarah Walsh
01:06:39
I am unsure God
Sarah Walsh
01:07:04
God's role in this. (Sorry for the typos)
Andi Chatburn’s iPhone
01:08:29
so true!
Scott KP
01:12:27
I’m curious how a Buddhist would experience these times. Fear? Is that a reaction to illusion? any thoughts from Siddhartha?
Andi Chatburn’s iPhone
01:13:03
what a beautiful non-dualism, holding both Todd
Scott KP
01:16:09
Christian faith acknowledges a catastrophe at its core; we are alienated from God and one another. How ironic if separation will cultivate reconciliation!
Jim CastroLang
01:17:27
"Separation will cultivate reconciliation" interesting, good for reflection.
Scott KP
01:17:32
Kierkegaard would say that anxiety and despair is our natural state;
RayKayle Martinez
01:17:57
Andi - thank you so much for your transparency and willingness to share your feelings openly. As someone who works in an administrative capacity at a hospital, I never expected to be a part of conversations regarding ethical decisions, planning for the worst, and being available in every capacity to help move things along swiftly during this crisis. It was reassuring to hear that I am not alone in the idea that we are playing every character right now.
Jim CastroLang
01:20:48
Emotions are a distortion of reality -- they are an important part of our subjectivity and our lovability yet we must be careful in making decisions based on emotions alone.
Andi Chatburn’s iPhone
01:21:00
Jim that’s beautiful, afree
Scott KP
01:22:13
Buddha might suggest the paradox: anatman! no self! if then I am no self at my core, I contemplate the interbeing nature of existence! ???
Andi Chatburn’s iPhone
01:23:10
yes lovely, impermanence is not; permanence is not
Andi Chatburn’s iPhone
01:24:41
no, thank you for raising this
Jim CastroLang
01:28:27
Preach it Todd!
nfmain
01:29:12
^Agreed!
Andi Chatburn’s iPhone
01:29:51
yeah John Rawls, veil of ignorance!
Scott KP
01:30:06
yes, yes! let’s seize this moment! but let’s also not kid ourselves: there will be massive opposition to overturning the status quo. we need create ways to disarm delusion, defensiveness!
Riff Mattre
01:31:25
Thank you, everyone, great insights! I hear a thread from each of you that distinguishes fear recognized as warning INSTINCT that can direct choices and actions to safety VERSUS fear the EMOTION which fuels panic. Perhaps only belief, practice, and discipline can keep the INSTINCT from turning into EMOTION of suffering? WHO IS the "opposition" I AM AFRAID of?
Mark
01:32:28
Deb: Thanks! These things are known by those who don't want the rest of us to know.
Sarah Walsh
01:33:55
Have really enjoyed the company and thoughts from all. Scott really gave me cause for contemplation on being able to sit with myself.
Sarah Walsh
01:34:47
Thank you Deb! I did not know about this. Could you send a link to more info?
Riff Mattre
01:35:36
THANK YOU!